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How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Last Updated: 21.06.2025 05:03

How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

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Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

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ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Why would the state lie about the Earth's shape? We know that it's flat, but why do they lie and tell us that it is a sphere?

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

I am like a fish out of water,

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

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We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

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Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

Have you ever followed through being bi-curious?

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

What are women's true thoughts and feelings on bestiality?

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

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Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

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ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

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Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

How did you become popular in school?

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

If I only have a fire extinguisher to defend myself against some threat from people, should I spray them for max damage or just hit them with the fire extinguishers?

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

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One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

Now here in this verse

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

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There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

CONCLUSION:

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

then who is there to know what happens without?

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

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I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

NOW…

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

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ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

Sain (a barber)

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

Kabir (a weaver)